Read This Before Getting a Covid Vaccine

GroyperSupreme

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I still fail to see what the origin of the virus has to do with the admitely corrupt vaccination policies... must be the Left, tampering with my brain

(Sorry, but all this is so obviously an emotional subject for you yankees that I can't help but stare wide eyed in amazement... :D )
Oddly enough there isn't a problem with vaccination policies. So confused there.
There is a problem with American politicians, the left, swinging wildly on whether or not the vaccine's safe.
Origin of the virus and it's development would be pivotal in creating the most effective vaccine and give the researchers a better understanding on how it mutates.
 

Maggie

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Raddy

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I still fail to see what the origin of the virus has to do with the admitely corrupt vaccination policies... must be the Left, tampering with my brain

(Sorry, but all this is so obviously an emotional subject for you yankees that I can't help but stare wide eyed in amazement... :D )
Its become so politized here that suggesting we try and keep ppl from dying from preventable stuff means you're a traitorous communist that is in league with the antichrist.

It would be funny if my ICU wasn't full of covid again and we weren't fighting to fly 30 y Olds out for the only ECMO beds in the southwest to try and buy them time until we can either fix their lungs or find a new set for them.

I will never understand how ppl are more willing to trust the MyPillow guy or Tucker Carlson more than they are willing to trust a doctor that went thru a meat grinder of an education for 10+ years to learn how to save them. Most of us medicos don't want ppl dying, no matter what their political affiliations are.
 

Raddy

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Nope. Wish it was. Last couple of my super sick covids were ppl in their 30s with no underlying conditions I was trying to transport for ECMO to Albuquerque. One was a pregnant girl, she mightve been in her late 20s, can't remember.
Something to keep in mind if you move to the southwest bro, you being tubby puts you at a higher risk for complications with this. I hope you have good insurance, cuz I don't think Tucson has ECMO n CT surgery at their tertiary care, so if your insurance won't cover the flight, you gonna die.
 

GroyperSupreme

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Highly inaccurate. But you do you.

Its become so politized here that suggesting we try and keep ppl from dying from preventable stuff means you're a traitorous communist that is in league with the antichrist.
I cast thee out Satan!!

It's not just the vax. It's a legitimate concern on the safety of the vax. Reports of deaths and complications are real. And the media and current administration is all too eager with the Big Tech to suppress that news. Not withstanding the political stuff that is tacked onto the vax. Why can't I go back to normal if I get the vax. Isn't that the goal? Why the mixed messages.

Why import illegals into the country which are testing positive at a 900% rate from a year ago when the country is under crisis? Wouldn't that further the spread? Where is the government sending them? and why?
You're just too afraid of asking questions.
I will never understand how ppl are more willing to trust the MyPillow guy or Tucker Carlson
The MyPillow guy makes pillows. Duh. Everyone loves pillows.
Tucker Carlson is cool.

Those same doctors are flip flopping and no information or guidance is consistent from one week to the next. This is the very definition of a clusterfuck.

But everyone should be asking, which they are not, "Why was the US paying the CHINESE to conduct tests on proof of function in the Corona virus?" Don't we have capable scientists here? Wouldn't the research be more legitimate due to our open scrutiny?

Finally, People are dying AFTER getting the vax.
 

Raddy

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Highly inaccurate. But you do you.


I cast thee out Satan!!

It's not just the vax. It's a legitimate concern on the safety of the vax. Reports of deaths and complications are real. And the media and current administration is all too eager with the Big Tech to suppress that news. Not withstanding the political stuff that is tacked onto the vax. Why can't I go back to normal if I get the vax. Isn't that the goal? Why the mixed messages.

Why import illegals into the country which are testing positive at a 900% rate from a year ago when the country is under crisis? Wouldn't that further the spread? Where is the government sending them? and why?
You're just too afraid of asking questions.

The MyPillow guy makes pillows. Duh. Everyone loves pillows.
Tucker Carlson is cool.

Those same doctors are flip flopping and no information or guidance is consistent from one week to the next. This is the very definition of a clusterfuck.

But everyone should be asking, which they are not, "Why was the US paying the CHINESE to conduct tests on proof of function in the Corona virus?" Don't we have capable scientists here? Wouldn't the research be more legitimate due to our open scrutiny?

Finally, People are dying AFTER getting the vax.
Look, I totally understand the hesitation over getting the shot. Im gonna level, I was one of the first ones to get it, they made us all sign a waver saying we won't sue if we end up dead or maimed by it.
I weighed my options n decided then that if I was gonna die, either covid or the vaccine would kill me, but meh, I'd be dead n we'd know it was the shot if I died from it.
That was in December. Since then I've had no issues. And I've known 1000+ people who've gotten the shot, of both political camps, with no permanent damage.

The changing stance on masks is because of the mutation. Something all viruses and bacteria do. We knew that was coming too, thats why they rushed the shot out (partially) because the sooner we established a vaccine base, the less likely we would give the virus fertile ground for possible mutation. The more hosts for a virus, the increasing chance of mutations. The worry is that the Delta variant has already out witted the shot and can still cause infections n transmission in vaccinated ppl.

However, its shown that the vaccine provides partial immunity and prevents the severe infection in vaccinated ppl. But we can still pass it around n get ppl sick, especially to unvaccinated ppl, so masks limit the transmission. Which we want, instead of an overwhelmed hospital system and all that shit we saw last year (like the refrigerated trucks n bodies stacked in the decon shower).
The "ppl testing positive for the virus despite vaccination" is usually a misleading clickbait thing. You gotta ask, what are they testing positive for? Is it the antigen, the rapid PCR test, or the nucleaic acid test. They could harbor viral DNA without being symptomatic because they were exposed but the virus can't use them as a host to reproduce cuz of the immunity so it's gonna hang out there, inert until it burns out. That's been the issue from the start, asymptomatic transmission has been our biggest hurdle, even b4 the vaccine.

I know it seems like doctors are flip flopping but information is changing rapidly, and it's taking alot to keep up. I get not trusting the vaccine, but the masking thing isn't a huge surprise. I will do it if it keeps us out of lock downs. And lock downs only delay the inevitable so I don't wanna see that either.

The "ppl are dying from the vaccine," ok, aside from issues with the J&J vaccine (with women n blood clots, proven to not be connected, and the # of supposed cases was at a lower rate than blood clots associated with hormonal birth control yet thats not receiving public outcry) I haven't heard of widespread death from the shot. And they are studying the fuck out of the vaccine recipients.
Again, I get the hesitation. I know nurses n docs that are hesitant. Thats ok. We living in scary times. But most of us wanna save ya'll. If you decide to not get the shot, do so with the right information, talk to your health care providers, look at medical journals (Google scholar can get you access to one's that are usually behind paywalls) and be mindful of where the info comes from.

And yes, big Pharma owns us in the USA and we in medicine know it and also hate it. Believe it or not, we fight them alot about shit (drug cost, efficiency, risk, safety). We want you guys to not die, thats it. We don't get any more money if you die and we kinda like ya'll.
 

GroyperSupreme

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Xi's penis tastes like Gen. Mao's Chicken. Shame. One would think it would be Hunan Beef.
LOl some of the gymnastics there like "there's no proof." Perfectly health woman, no underlying conditions pre vax, dead after vaxxed.
Spontaneous miscarriages in late stage pregnancy.

The masks are ineffective against virus. Even the Grand Wizard Fauci said in the beginning, they won't have any real effect on containing the virus. Why are we to believe his 180 degree turn around? How about the 570? Wear two masks or even more? If wearing masks was to curb the infection rate, then why has the infection rate gone on as predicted? I see retards wearing two masks with a hole torn out in the center because they can't breathe while bikeriding. Seriously.
Crocheted masks that wouldn't stop flies from going through them, face shields, people wearing their sunglasses over their mouth to pay for gas. etc. Masks didn't even stop {it for} people who wear them regularly and properly.

You're telling me this thing mutated four times in about 200 M, infections. OK. If true, TOTALLY not artificial.

It's a farce. Whenever man tries to reorder nature, we end up really fucking things up. We doomed ourselves. Now only the strong will survive. VIRUS DOME!!!
 
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GroyperSupreme

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There was obvious political stuff with the mask which undermined any help it could have impacted. It made it a farce. You couldn't get married, bury you loved one, have birthday parties, mask or no mask because COVID. But, if you wanted to burn down a PD station in the name of a dead junkie, go right ahead. The infection rate in AZ was nearly zero, until the BLM protests in Phoenix in late May/June. Then things kicked off.
 

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1º With this urgency, since the Covid outbreak. Before that, not nearly as much.

That's a plain lie. And I'll quote:

" With the BNT162b2 vaccine, the effectiveness of two doses was 93.7% (95% CI, 91.6 to 95.3) among persons with the alpha variant and 88.0% (95% CI, 85.3 to 90.1) among those with the delta variant. " (from July 21, 2021 )

Post your scientific, current links saying something completely different or fuck off, cringeman

Btw, the link you posted is from a year ago, and only talks about the difficulties, not the impossibility... that SAME prof Fazier NOW says:

Professor Frazer has also thrown his support behind the AstraZeneca vaccine, saying he will have it when it is offered to him.

Even more:


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3º The urgency of the situation, the pressure from goverments and the billions involved had all multiplied by 3 the usual speed. It's called an EMERGENCY. Obviously. What a dork, lol




Why do you tell me that? I was literally just quoting YOUR link in that part

bwhahahaha wow

Also, your mom is a red-herring... don't be ridiculous... are you really saying that the Delta variant is an hoax? REALLY? that the pics come from WETA, and not from electron microscopes? That the lab analisys worldwide are all part of a conspiracy? Are you saying it's like with the fucking CHEMTRAILS? bwahahaha

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https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...gious-a-new-study-sheds-light?t=1627644945068



Another direct lie ...based on an absolutely biased reading of old sources that you never understood in the first place, cause you are obviously semi-iliterate, scientifically speaking

And I'll quote again:

" Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission: Nonmedical masks use materials that obstruct particles of the necessary size; people are most infectious in the initial period postinfection, where it is common to have few or no symptoms (45, 46, 141); nonmedical masks have been effective in reducing transmission of respiratory viruses; and places and time periods where mask usage is required or widespread have shown substantially lower community transmission." ( PNAS January 26, 2021 )

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Post scientific, actual links saying oterwise or fuck off a second time, "darling"

And the rest of your post is the same: direct lies with no scientific evidence... that you take for granted cause never in your life you have been able of fact-checking the redneck propaganda you enjoy swallowing cause it makes you feel spusial and "inside the GAME" pfft hahaha... I'll pass on keep spanking you ass, the stench of splashing shit starts to be unbearable

I'm done... unless you post those actual, scientific evidence links I asked for, demonstrating that vacciness and masks have zero eficacy. I'll wait...

Spare me anything else.
Maggie, you GORMLESS WRETCH! You INCOMPETENT tool! You GULLIBLE sheep!

1) Sadly, you have somehow conflated 'urgency' with competence. Just because a vaccine is urgently needed does NOT mean it will be A) Effective and B) Safe. A trial stage drug that has much shorter than normal Stage 1, 2, and 3 trials does not magically become 'effective' and 'safe' just because of 'urgency'. You moron. In fact, it is LESS likely to be both effective and safe simply because there's a paucity of reliable data about it.

2) Nice of you to conveniently leave out the fact that your SOURCE for BNT162b2 effectiveness is the hopelessly politicized NIH. You FRAUD!

3) Professor Frazer has obviously been compromised. Look at him in the video: he looks like he's living through a hostage situation and HE'S the hostage. My god, to endorse the AstraZeneca poison makes it OBVIOUS that the man has been severely threatened by government goons. You WEAK 9 stone gimp!


4) OMG. Your 'source' for claims about a 'delta variant' is....wait for it...En Pee Are. NPR? Have you COMPLETELY lost your mind? Could you find a MORE biased collection of Leftist blowhards than NPR? Doubtful. You thoroughly UNIMPRESSIVE sack of FAIL!

5) I actually LOOKED at the PNAS data on mask use and it's effectiveness against Covid19. Guess what I found? NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE WAS USED TO JUSTIFY THEIR ABSURD CONCLUSIONS. Hence, from YOUR worthless 'source':

- Cochrane (7) and the World Health Organization (8) both point out that, for population health measures, we should not generally expect to be able to find controlled trials, due to logistical and ethical reasons. This issue has been identified for studying community use of masks for COVID-19 in particular (9). Therefore, we should not be surprised to find that there is no RCT for the impact of masks on community transmission of any respiratory infection in a pandemic.

- The other 'studies' that PNAS relied on were Chinese (totally unreliable) and a review sponsored by the WHO which has been completely infiltrated and compromised by the CCP - Chinese Communist Party.


6) Your demand for 'scientific evidence' is both astonishing AND utterly LAUGHABLE when your supposedly 'scientific evidence' is NOTHING OF THE SORT and you WILLINGLY and CREDULOUSLY lap it up like a trained MONKEY!

You ANTI-SALUBRIOUS, FECKLESS, OBTUSE, and MALADROIT pimple on the arse of all that is decent and competent in this world! I'm INSULTED by the mere fact that you're allowed to BREATHE air and live on the same PLANET as me!!
 
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The changing stance on masks is because of the mutation. Something all viruses and bacteria do. We knew that was coming too, thats why they rushed the shot out (partially) because the sooner we established a vaccine base, the less likely we would give the virus fertile ground for possible mutation. The more hosts for a virus, the increasing chance of mutations. The worry is that the Delta variant has already out witted the shot and can still cause infections n transmission in vaccinated ppl.


1. The changing stance on mask use (non-medical variety) is NOT based on science. It's well known that the virus is too small to be stopped by cloth masks. The poison dwarf himself, Fauci, admitted this way back in February.

2. If we're so worried about mutated versions of the virus emanating from the unvaxxed, wouldn't it make sense to STOP ALLOWING THE THIRD WORLD TO FLOW OVER OUR SOUTHERN BORDER BY THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS EVERY MONTH? And wouldn't it make sense to STOP putting those creatures on planes and buses and sending them all over the country with ABSOLUTELY NO MEDICAL OVERSIGHT and NO knowledge of their current medical conditions or their medical histories?
 

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Oh BTW, look at what's happening to law abiding citizens in Australia. If you don't believe there's a massive effort to control and direct almost every facet of people's lives by these Western governments, then you're not paying attention. This plandemic has given them an unprecedented opportunity to permanently entrench themselves and their ilk in power. @Likeicare



 
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