Palestine vs Israel conflict

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Wait im confused, the border between gaza and israel is the most heavily fortified prison wall ever made. All this proves is that walls dont work.
Walls work exceptionally well if they're guarded and are part of an integrated security system. For some reason, the Israelis moved large numbers of their soldiers away from their security wall just before the Palis breached the border.
 

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I'm just curious if this one is going to be the real one, or if this'll just be a few weeks of fighting before it just fizzles out, like that thing that happened right before the Ukraine War started
 

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I'm just curious if this one is going to be the real one, or if this'll just be a few weeks of fighting before it just fizzles out, like that thing that happened right before the Ukraine War started
my best guess would be that it will be a series of raids by Palestine.
 
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Excellent point. White phosphorus it is.
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I definitely agree, this form of chemical warfare is brutal.

If I was Israel in the long game, I'd copy what South Africa in Project Coast supposedly tried to do to its blacks, and make the Palestinians infertile so they can no longer grow in population. This would be feasible as Gaza relies on Israel for all basic utilities, so they can just put chemical agents in the water
 
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I'm just curious if this one is going to be the real one, or if this'll just be a few weeks of fighting before it just fizzles out, like that thing that happened right before the Ukraine War started
Netanyahu did declare war on Hamas and Gaza saying that they will escalate the conflict to never before seen levels, meaning that this could potentially be the war to end it all. But then Hamas will resort to terrorism within Israel.

But I feel like if Israel does annex Gaza, it'll cause other global crisis to happen, something which they probably don't want.
 
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Here is one of the Jewish shills I watch, he pretty ok. Gives a quick round up of what is going on.
 

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said it before, quence is like tim in that hes only able to view things in the context of american two party politics
2 Points

1. That comment makes no sense in terms of what it was replying to.
2. It MIGHT be an interesting comment in a different context IF I was a republican or democrat, but I'm not. I'm a dedicated Independent.
 

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No, the Hamas Invasion Was Not an Israeli ‘Intelligence Failure’





One would have to be almost hopelessly naïve to buy the corporate state media line that the Hamas invasion yesterday morning was an Israeli “intelligence failure.”

Mossad is one of, if not the, most powerful intelligence agencies on the planet. It routinely shares intelligence, furthermore, with the “Five Eyes” intelligence services.

It has its tentacles deep inside of every ally and foe of import. Its spies are littered across the Gaza Strip, which is an effective open-air prison into which goods do not flow but for the blessing of the Israeli state. The Gaza Strip is arguably the most heavily surveilled geographic area on Earth.

The Hamas invasion of Southern Israel yesterday was an operation involving tens of thousands of operatives, at least, across land, sea, and air, using all manner of equipment and weaponry – drones, thousands of rockets, countless firearms, and even bulldozers that were positioned to knock down Israeli fencing.

And MSNBC and CNN would have you believe this was all a big “intelligence failure” by Mossad.

Bibi Netanyahu was in real political trouble before this conveniently timed invasion. Now, or at least this is the hope, Israelis will rally around the flag for some patriotic Palestinian ass-kicking and their Prime Minister’s imminently obvious corruption will be, at least temporarily, forgotten, if not forgiven.

Meanwhile, Israeli intelligence, rather than being punished for its “failure,” will use its “failure” as a pretext to garner more funding and more authorities for itself so as to prevent another such “failure.” The Hamas invasion was only a “failure” if one believes the goal of Mossad is to protect Israeli civilians rather than accrue more power for itself.

At a bare minimum, Mossad knew of the attack beforehand and let it happen for political convenience. More likely, in my view, is that it actively facilitated the attack.

The kind of person who would believe this was a big intelligence whoopsie are the same kind of people who would buy that a handful of semi-literate cave-dwellers halfway around the world singlehandedly pulled off the greatest terror attack in world history with no assistance from spooks and that buildings with structure fires at the top of them collapse at freefall speed neatly into their own footprints.

If you’re one of those – and I assume you’re not if you’re reading this – I don’t know what to tell you. Read a book or something.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-10-08/no-hamas-invasion-was-not-israeli-intelligence-failure
 

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Not happening USA would not let the Taliban in Iraq since even now they still have bases there.
I seem to remember a recent twitter post saying if the US is involved with the situation in Gaza in any way, that all US installations in the region would become legitimate targets, I will wait a day or two before deciding whether the Taliban armed with a great deal of US weaponry can traverse "The Irak" or not lol

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Things seem to be heating up on the Israeli side

Israel has mobilized 300,000 reservists in the last 48 hours.

"We are moving to the attack phase," an IDF spokesperson says and the focus of the Israeli military is now on the "complete destruction of Hamas."

Israeli Defense Minister orders a "total siege" on Gaza: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. We are fighting human animals and we will act accordingly."

 
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